CCC 274 – The Vince Dorse Interview P2

Vince Dorse returns! Vince joins Brian Dunaway, Joel Duggan & Matthew Ducharme to update us on all ages comicĀ Untold Tales Of Bigfoot as well as his new book on Kickstarter!

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Sweet Baby Corn! Vince Dorse is back for a second helping!

CC2C Guest History:

This is our SECOND chat with VINCE. Previously on Episode 190.
http://comicscoasttocoast.com/podcast/comics-coast-coast-190-vince-dorse-interview/

About the artist:

Freelance illustrator/cartoonist, creator of Untold Tales of Bigfoot

About the work:

Untold Tales of Bigfoot is an award-winning, all-ages comic about Scout, a dog that gets lost in the woods, and the lonsesome Bigfoot who finds him. They team up to survie all manner of deadly peril, while Scout tries to find his way home, and Bigfoot tries to convince him to stay.
Nominated to Short List for Best Webcomic of 2012, Slate Book Review & The Center for Cartoon Studies
Reuben Winner, Best Online Comic (Long-Form) 2012, National Cartoonists Society
Nominated, Best Online Comic (Long-Form) 2014, National Cartoonists Society
Kickstarter: Untold Tales of Bigfoot Graphic Novel
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/vincedorse/untold-tales-of-bigfoot-graphic-novel
Where to find: Social media links, etc.
www.untoldtalesofbigfoot.com, www.vincedorse.com, vincedorse.wordpress.com (process blog)
@vincedorse
vince_dorse
vincedorse.tumblr.com (random collection of comics and cartoon art)
Untold Tales of Bigfoot Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/Untold-Tales-of-Bigfoot-1454477154839505/

Show Notes:

Kickstarter
Why did you decided to do a Kickstater for the graphic novel?
Readers on the site were have been asking since the beginning if I was going to put the book in print. Other folks too. The book was favorably reviewed by a few publishers, enjoyed the story, loved the art, just didn’t work out. Kickstarter seemed like a viable option to getting it printed. I enjoy the control over the process, something I might not have had with a publisher, and Kickstarter is where I’ve been buying a lot of graphic novels and comics lately. Independent creators are turning out some great stuff.
What advantages do you think artists have with Kickstarter?
This is my first time utilizing Kickstarter. So I’m not an authority on it. Kickstarter’s nice because people who want to create something don’t have to rely on a gatekeeper to get it to their fans. Isn’t that the direction commerce is moving anyway? Things seem more decentralized. It’s happening with music and movies…literature…Kickstarter’s another tool that allows creators to interact directly with the consumer without a middle man. But what do I know?
What is the most challenging thing about putting together your Kickstarter campaign?
Math. Trying to figure out the budget, and what goes into the budget, researching shipping and packaging pricing….so many numbers. And there’s anxiety about that because everyone tells you to double/triple check your shipping numbers, and maybe double or triple whatever you charge because you WILL make mistakes. And we did settle on different numbers only to realize we HAD made mistakes or forgot to account for something. So yeah, it was the numbers that were the biggest hurdle. That, and dragging myself outside in front of a camera to shoot the video.
What graphic novels and comics are you supporting on Kickstarter? What grabs your attention as a supporter?
I think I gravitate toward the all-ages stuff. Not that I don’t enjoy the mature-reader stuff. But I get a lot of that stuff everywhere else – tv, movies, comic shops. A good all-ages read is not as common (though, they’re out there). But that’s the kind of stuff I like to back. Ryan Fisher’s Torchlight Lullaby, Sean O’Neill’s Rocket Robinson, Mike Regina’s Adamsville, James Stowe’s Sidekick Quests.
You just announced a cross promotion with Sidekick Quests on Kickstarter. Tell us more about what that is and how it came to be.
James Stowe is one of the many webcomic creators I met on Twitter when I first started promoting Untold Tales of Bigfoot there. So many of those folks were welcoming and supportive, encouraging…it was a nice way to stumble into social media. A few of those guys and I traded fan art over the years, drawing each other’s characters (you can see a huge collection of Bigfoot art at my site drawn by a ton of talented webcomic artists). So when Jim approached me about his idea — that backers buying a book from each of us would receive a print of the fan art we did for each other — how could I say no? It always felt like we were all in this thing together. So I try to promote other people’s work as often as I can. Rising tide raises all boats?
It’s not just a collection of Untold Tales of Bigfoot. What new things can readers expect?
It’s the story that people read online…with additions and some changes. The art’s been cleaned up, new pages have been added, a new character that’ll play a part in book 2, etc.
What was the reason behind going back and making changes to some of the pages previously published online?
Visual consistency, mostly. Making changes to existing pages to match continuity of new pages. And I’m constantly tweaking, have been since the beginning, though it may have gone largely unnoticed. There hasn’t yet been a “definitive version” of the comic. I guess if we hit our goals, the printed book will pass as the definitive version. And it’ll probably drive me crazy.
You’re ALMOST funded with (20) days to go. Can you tease any stretch goals?
Much more elaborate cover/nicer book (which benefits everyone…the consumer gets a nicer product, and any over-run I have will be of a nicer quality — it’s win/win), possibly some incidentals, possibly adding behind-the-scenes/making of section, not sure. At this point, I’d be happy just to get it in print.
The Untold Tales of Bigfoot is an all ages comic. Do you find that you have to explain that a lot to people given a lot of online content tends to be aimed at older readers?
I always hope that all-ages doesn’t necessarily translate as “just for kids.” I think my stuff gets pretty dark in some passages, certainly heavy enough for a “mature” reader. I just try to do it without four-letter words or gore or nudity. I’m a big fan of letting the readers’ imagination dictate what they want to see. To tell you the truth, I didn’t start out with the intention of making an “all-ages” comic. I was just telling a story. I think it’s a pretty adult story about loss and loneliness and friendship and sacrifice….but people started referring to it as all-ages early on and I guess I didn’t see anything about it that didn’t fit that label, so I went with it. Because people tend to like labels. It gives people a starting point, so they can understand what follows. But a solid majority of the people reading Untold Tales of Bigfoot are grownups, so it must appeal, in some degree, across the spectrum.
Last time we talked in 2014 you had said you were primarily using Painter and testing out Manga Studio, Did you ever make the switch?
I started experimenting in earnest with MangaStudio in the last year or so and really like it for drawing. Inking, especially. I’m still coloring in Photoshop, but that’s because it’s one of the few programs that has a real, dedicated CMYK engine and that’s the color space I enjoy working in. I don’t know if many other people enjoy it as much as I do, and they’ll do the conversion from RGB. But so far, that’s not how I like to do things. As for Painter — I honestly really like their brush creation tools. And, again, for the sake of visual consistency, I finished Book One of UTOB with the same custom inking brush I created in Painter that I’d been using all along. I’ve done other comics, and even Bigfoot & Scout shorts with MangaStudio (ClipStudioPaint) but I wanted to make sure the linework throughout Book One was as consistent as I could make it.
Social Media Networking. You seem like an expert. Is there an award for good Karma?
I’m not an expert. But I do find that if you’re stuck in front of a computer drawing for the bulk of the day, it’s not too much extra effort to drop into Twitter or Facebook or Instagram, take a look around, see what’s happening, retweet stuff that you like, have conversations — and not lose too much actual work time. I really like the group of people I’ve managed to surround myself with on social media. I know friends who have left Twitter because it’s a “festering cesspool of hate” but, I mean, yeah, probably a lot of the internet’s like that, they’re probably on to something — but as far as Karma goes, I’ve found, personally, that if you reach out to people with genuine kindness, enthusiasm and support, that often, not all the time, but often, that same stuff comes back to you.
The LAST Question… Ever… (Pay It Forward)
Can you share an artist you are a fan of for our listeners to follow?
I’ve loved Eddie Pittman’s work for years. When he started Red’s Planet, his online comic, I jumped on right away. Now that story’s being published by Amulet Books.
Where can we find their work online?
eddiepittman.com