The show is now complete, here and at iTunes. On show 40, join Tom and Justin as we foray into the world of political cartooning with Lucas Turnbloom.  Lucas sheds light on the process of political cartooning and the art of caricature in general.  We also talk about his most excellent webcomic, "Imagine This".

We also touch on Artizan Syndicate and how to market your political cartoons.  Then we engage in a discussion started by an article in the Washington Post (thank you, Daily Cartoonist!) that has us trying to figure out who we'd put on a "Mount Rushmore" of cartoonists ". And since it's summer and "Iron Man" has gotten us off to a great movie start, we talk about superhero movies. Enjoy!

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aron - gravity IP:68.30.110.52 | 2008-05-20 21:48:50 did you say that gravity would stop when the earth stopped rotating? that's almost as offensively wrong as saying time would stop. Reply | Quote

Tom Racine IP:70.95.253.149 | 2008-05-20 22:10:02 Well, let's establish this from the start...I am a cartoonist. Sure, I loves me my science shows on Discovery, and I had a fair aptitude for math and science in school, but at heart and brain, I'm an artist. So, anything I say on the subject of astrophysics should be taken with a grain of salt. But isn't the reason we have gravity on the earth because we're rotating? Sure, there'd be gravity here just because of the mass of the planet (much like there's 1/6th the gravity on the moon), but I have always been under the impression that it's the rotation of the earth that causes our gravity to exist. (That's why they always have rotating space ships in sci-fi films to create a gravitational pull...right? Maybe? Possibly?) I'm perfectly willing to be utterly wrong about this. But I still won't back down from the idea that if you simply rotated the Earth backward, you'd cause time to go backwards. Even the 10 year old boy who saw "Superman" for the first time in the theater when it came out wouldn't buy that! I'm off to Wikipedia to learn about gravity! Nothing wrong is ever printed there! Away! Reply | Quote

justjoust Super Administrator | 2008-05-21 11:20:53 Gravity is determined by mass. The moon has gravity but doesn't rotate. Space ships on TV with gravity that have a rotating object and not grav-plating, create gravity by centrifugal force. The rate of the spin determines the ppsi. We're not standing on Earth because of centrifugal force, centrifugal force would spin us out amongst the clouds- I think. Reply | Quote

Aron IP:68.30.110.52 | 2008-05-21 13:53:55 yep. if anything, the spinning of the earth makes us slightly lighter since we're on the outside. If we were inside a big hollow sphere, the spinning would help hold us down, but it wouldn't be gravity. if the earth changed directions, everyone would die. we're all going about 1000 miles an hour right now, and if the earth suddenly switched directions, it would be going 1000 miles an hour the other way, so the whole world would basically collide with itself. So, in an attempt to save Lois, Superman would have killed everyone on the entire planet Reply | Quote

tom racine IP:208.51.37.245 | 2008-05-21 14:14:23 Yay! I learned something today! 42 years on this $^&!@# planet, and I for some reason, thought gravity was also a factor of the rotation of the earth. (I knew it was mostly a mass thing, but I thought rotation was a bigger factor.) But, thanks to Aron, I have even a better argument against the end of "Superman." The fact that half the world would slam into the ground at a thousand miles and hour and the other half would fly into space would certainly make Superman feel bad. Thanks for the science lesson, boys. If you ever need some help in something I'm an expert in...like Simpson's and Futurama trivia, or how to catch small rodents with only a piece of string and an avocado, I'm your man. Reply | Quote

Eric J. Peterson - Whoa, let's let down our hair IP:67.180.62.39 | 2008-05-22 14:20:35 Whoa, this is a little critical for a podcast about comics, isn't it? Don't worry about it fellers, fact-checking before the show in order to guarantee the accuracy of off-the-cuff remarks will not be necessary. You aren't being graded. And if you are, God help the instructor in his own mind. In any event, I thought it was an enjoyable show, and I appreciated the time spent on the nerd discussion. It fits with the subject matter of the show, and I mean that in a positive way. Long were the hours my friends and I spent talking about the functionality of the Matrix universe. Reply | Quote

tom racine IP:208.51.37.245 | 2008-05-22 20:32:58 I think we should do the occasional nerd chat about movies and tv. We don't want to stray too far from our core idea, 'cause Shiva knows there are a gazillion podcasts out there with guys sitting around talking smack about "Star Wars," but every now and then, it'd be fun. Especially in this summer of great (or potentially great) comic book/action films. Almost wish I was about 14 years old this summer...physically, I mean. I'm already there mentally. Reply | Quote

justjoust Super Administrator | 2008-05-23 00:09:41 I'd love to get into that stuff. With producers clamoring to make the next big comic book movie, actual comics- comic strips- aren't getting made at all. "optioned" yeah, but not made. Why? Maybe because producers are lazy and don't want to make the effort to create a story out of a strip. It's much easier to make Iron Man because the story has already been written. I don't know. But I think a discussion about which strips COULD work as a film and why would be really interesting. Reply | Quote

tom racine IP:70.95.253.149 | 2008-05-23 00:44:13 Mark Trail! Mark Trail! I'm going to have to give this some thought...I'm assuming we're talking about an animated film, but I suppose if they can make "Garfield" a live action film, we need to keep that option open. Let's not forget there were 28 films made of "Blondie" back in the 1940s. Isn't that amazing? Reply | Quote

justjoust Super Administrator | 2008-05-23 02:06:16 Quote: Let's not forget there were 28 films made of "Blondie" back in the 1940s. Isn't that amazing? And Dennis The Menace had his own show too. I remember watching those as a kid. Whatever happened to Jay North? Comic strips haven't been completely shut out of course, but they appear to be a riskier commodity that superheroes. Reply | Quote

tom racine IP:70.95.253.149 | 2008-05-23 11:39:39 I think they're generally riskier because few of them lend themselves to 2-hour stories..."Over the Hedge" wasn't too bad, but even that felt a little stretched, and they had to add characters to flesh it out. Sit-com like ones like "Blondie" might not be a bad choice, even for a weekly TV series...Sarah Jessica Parker as "Cathy" or something. Reply | Quote

justjoust Super Administrator | 2008-05-23 16:43:23 Computer-Animated Little Nemo in Slumberland. Let that dude who did Pan's Labyrinth do it, only not make it so dark and scary. Did you know that Doonesbury was tried on the stage? I think it might have been a musical, I'm not sure, but I think I remember a theatrical Doonesbury. Come to think of it, Peanuts, Garfield, Li'l Abner, Dick Tracy, Prince Valiant, Buck Rogers, Popeye, Dennis The Menace, Blondie, Over The Hedge, Dilbert, Boondocks, there are probably others that don't come to mind immediately, but these were all comic strips first. All have been tried as TV or movies at some point. But what could they do now that's currently incarnated as a comic strip? Best bet would probably be Pearls before Swine, but as a feature? I don't know. Maybe. Get Fuzzy would work I think. I'm sure Darby has been approached at some point. We've heard on this very show that Lio and Pooch Cafe' has had interest in Hollywood. So it's not accurate for me to say that comic strips don't get their props on the screen. Maybe they're not working all that well because the strips are failing to really capture the imaginations now. Maybe not enough people are doing REALLY DIFFERENT stuff. I mean, what's REALLY DIFFERENT out there now? Hmmmm... (later edit) I thought about it and some of the most different and imaginative things in the comic strip world have been discussed on this show- webcomics. Stuff that won't get picked up because it's too different. I don't want to single people out because others might feel bad, but I can think of several webcomics that could really take off just because they are so different, given the chance. Reply | Quote

tom racine IP:72.220.242.95 | 2008-05-23 18:56:23 I also think you have to add in the concept that once Hollywood gets a hold of a concept, they have a way of destroying its heart. You can just see the guy with the cigar saying "Hey, Pastis...can you add a singing monkey?" (Of course, he just might do that...) It's all about finding a good story, and hopefully, allowing the artist to have a say in the work. It killed me in the Paul Gilligan article that he had to suggest to the studio that maybe, just maybe HE should come up with some ideas. Geez...you'd think that'd be step 1! I think "Lio" would have some serious potential for a cool animated flick...if they allow it to be in the "where the wild things are" vein and keep it's edge. Generally, I'd think that the half hour animated format would work best for most strips, just do to the fact that it's a lot more possible to fill 22-minutes with decent writing and storylines, rather than a two hour film that has to be a lot more epic in scope. Reply | Quote

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